@Meike: I guess its normal to feel a bit hurt at someone's comment from time to time. It's always had to deal with honest critics >.< And the reason why I understand you saying it, is because I feel like this too! And often, I might think "what the hell is she talking bout, I did really good on just that part the she critiziced" .. ah... it's depressing xD but either we deal with it, or we forbid honest comments ^^
@Cho: Hehe I know you didnt mean your comment bad or something, and I think it's not only you who thinks that some comments seem a bit harsh ^^ It's probably a topic that needs to be talked about, cuz it's been hold back for so long!
Honestly, I don't see any harsh word or choice of words or meaning in anything Stef said about Hani's parts... I actually think it was said really nice :O like in a way, she was too shy to really say what she means.. I mean the "something went wrong" is still better than saying "it disappoints me" what I wrote not too long ago. And I also honestly think, just because of my dissappointment-comment, i was raising the bar for harshness up to a level, nobody would dare to write a comment on.
Err... WOW. i dont even understand myself what i just wrote! What I meant was, that nobody here probably would ever write a comment as harsh as mine on the miss A song xD
And if I seem like I am proud of that.. I'm not! I'm really feeling apologic for writing that, though that doesnt necessarily mean I regret it - cuz still, not too long ago I announced that I will write honest comments from that point on, cuz people also do complain if they always get the same "you did a good job" comment over and over again! hihi ^^
But anyways, tactics-wise, my comment on miss A was probably poo-poo talk. Hani doesnt have any self esteem on doing covers anyways, even though 90% of our comments on her, like Rella kinda said, were comments of praise ! She got so much praise from us in those last 2 years, and still has no self-esteem. Like many others, which i will adress too later ;) .. anyways... I really don't know what to do with Hani. Tell her she does a good job, you get a "noo i sound like a hairy monkey with high fever and cough" or something like that. Comment on her with a "this time you didnt do as good" you get a "i know i f**d up, im so sorry to my team... "
So no matter what you guys do, I officially step back from commenting her covers, after I told her the same things over and over through the past 3 years that I know her. "Don't force out a vibrato so much" "work on you pronounciation" .. I'm not doing it anymore! ^^ and im really not saying this with a bad mood or with a tongue-in-cheek.. my mood is really good right now.. or I wouldnt use smileys XD
Cho mentioned to ask for re-recordings more often, and like Rella agreed and said, it should become more of a trend here! Sure, I totally agree to this too! But certain people even take re-record-requests as a hidden message "ur parts suck, go make it better (even tho im sure you cant)" and/or they feel embarassed they even got asked. Best examples here are Hani (again), Casa and just recently ....Rhea i think?
Sure, being asked to make a re-record sometimes might feel a bit weird. And soon we will have the official rule.. wait, or did we announce it already?... that re-record requests must, from now on, be asked in private. like a private message here in the forum, or on twitter or facebook.
But seriously, people need to stop assuming that their voice sucks, just because they get asked to re-record !
And then, if they don't get asked, afterwards they complain "why didnt you ask", and this is what just now robs my smileys and makes me a bit mad. The simple answer to "why didnt you ask", at least if it was ME who didnt ask, is, that that person would be super sad/mad/whatever if I DID! And if you know me, you know that I'm normally not shy to ask for re-records. So either, your part was sounding good to me, or I feel it's a better decision not to ask, so I dont hurt feelings.
Anyways. If people get rid of this habit of taking re-record-requests as a hidden message of.... of... doom! XD .. lol.. no, of.. agh, you know, hidden message like "ur voice sucks", we could finally start the trend of re-recording without having to worry about someone's feelings to much ^^
Or just do it like Stef, and tell people to effin ask you to do a re-record, or you get mad or something :P ... Like.. after Stef's post in the past, I dont dare NOT to ask her HAHA
and as I said, there is something else I wanna adress!
I already kinda ranted about it on twitter months ago, and some of the people even knew I meant them and said "I should change.. i know.. xD", but nothing changed. Absolutely nothing!
I'm talking about people here, that have no self-esteem at all! :// Even tho they get so many good comments always D:
People like ... ouphh.. okay that list would be so long.. But you, and them, know who I mean.
All we hear from them is, that their voice sucks so much, and oh, uh, sorry for destroying my team, and ughh I can't listen to this cover cause I'm in it!! Ahh this cover would be so perfect if I wasnt in it!!!
Seems familiar? Well duh, to me it does! D:
I mean... I'm not asking for a 180Â° change, so those people start to say "hah, see, if I wasnt in this team, that team would suck so much" or "goood i love to hear my voice soo much"
but it would be so much easier for everyone here, to either shrug those comments off with your shoulders and think "whatever you say", or show a little fun about your self, just like rella did in the comment above! she's joking about herself, and I also do that sometimes! Or when Cho says something like I sound like a pig (or something?? XD) and laughs it off...
That's so much less complicated ^^;
But if people take it so personally, and see stuff as direct insults instead of honest critics that should just help to improve, then I dunno. Then we should start to make a list of people, who are not allowed to receive comments or something XD' (that would be so ridiculous)
but what's not forbidden is to step back from commenting on certain people, which I started with this post ^^
and it would really suck if one day I'm in a state where i stepped back from commenting on 50% of the people.
Okay, thats all I have to say. ;) and if you want to discuss this issue further, just tell me and I will open an extra topic for this :3 because I think its a good issue to talk about.
Lastly, I want to adress the following people:
Hani, Casa, New, YouJu (sometimes), Tammy, Cho (sometimes), Stef (sometimes), Sai (sometimes)...
when thinking of members with no self esteem, you guys come to my mind. those with a "sometimes" are not as bad :P it doesnt hapen so often for you guys to hate on your parts....
but for the others...
gahhh whats wrong with you guys ^^ you all have so beautiful voices, geez! the rappers among you hate on their own rap, the singers hate on their singing...casa even hates to listen to some covers cause she's in it!! D:
Snap out of it! You all are so precious members in this forum, not only community wise, but even voice-wise!
Edit: and when hani finishes reading this, she should think if she really wants to keep the post she just wrote ;)